"I just I can't emphasize enough for myself and other people that I've journeyed with the value of finding authentic people that are willing to tell the truth and have grace and love in that."

"I wanted him in this liminal space. My goal was to irreparably break his heart for the poor of the world so he'd never just be a spoiled, complacent American ever - He'd always be haunted, because those years are so formative... I just wanted to get in there, God's heart for the poor."

Eric Iverson joins dadAWESOME for a vulnerable conversation about leading his family in Bible reading, the importance of paying attention to his wife, and the tendency to focus on behavior-change instead of dealing with heart issues.